Comments on: 2 Years Later… An Update on Why Microsoft Silverlight Will Fail http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/ Design, Development, Technology and My Life. Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:30:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Roger http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-256162 Roger Tue, 05 Jul 2011 10:00:47 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-256162 I use to work with Microsoft and uses their products, All I can say is that, they are not competitive enough to battle MAC success in technology, silverlight is fine but not too good for me, I'm a little bit afraid, it might crash my PC. I use to work with Microsoft and uses their products, All I can say is that, they are not competitive enough to battle MAC success in technology, silverlight is fine but not too good for me, I’m a little bit afraid, it might crash my PC.

]]> By: ewart http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-135762 ewart Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:35:06 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-135762 Nice marketing with that headline. I see Silverlight 4 is just out, I'd say despite the 10 year head start by flash, silverlight has overtaken flash in some dimensions while behind in others. What will the post read this year? "..Why silverlight _might_ fail?" and next year, "why silverlight is here to stay". Nice marketing with that headline. I see Silverlight 4 is just out, I’d say despite the 10 year head start by flash, silverlight has overtaken flash in some dimensions while behind in others. What will the post read this year? “..Why silverlight _might_ fail?” and next year, “why silverlight is here to stay”.

]]> By: Vegas Web Designer http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-131640 Vegas Web Designer Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:37:55 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-131640 It seems Silverlight is still trying to play catchup... I'm just not seeing a super-healthy community forming a strong backbone yet. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough? Until I see a lot more from Silverlight, I'll be watching from the sidelines while developing Flash RIAs. It seems Silverlight is still trying to play catchup… I’m just not seeing a super-healthy community forming a strong backbone yet. Maybe I’m just not looking hard enough? Until I see a lot more from Silverlight, I’ll be watching from the sidelines while developing Flash RIAs.

]]> By: Ian http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-129178 Ian Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:30:47 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-129178 As an amateur web developer, I personally expected Silverlight to flop within a year or so, but it proved me wrong. If nothing else, it introduces vital competition to the flash platform, which has made some remarkable achievements over the past 2 years (I wonder why...). What really surprised me was NBC's choice to put the 2010 Olympic site in Silverlight, although it is really just the videos that are in Silverlight; the other animations are still in Flash. (Intersting combination). Because of this, I finally gave into trying it the other night. As a mac user, I found the player very responsive and well designed compared to something like the hulu player; whoever built it did a good job. Although it appears that Silverlight is quite partial to the Microsoft media formats, they do have the advantage of modern technology on the mac and linux platforms. The current Flash code is quite archaic and wastes a lot of processing power running old libraries. If Microsoft can fit itself in this niche, they may have a chance, but otherwise Flash still seems superior. As an amateur web developer, I personally expected Silverlight to flop within a year or so, but it proved me wrong. If nothing else, it introduces vital competition to the flash platform, which has made some remarkable achievements over the past 2 years (I wonder why…). What really surprised me was NBC’s choice to put the 2010 Olympic site in Silverlight, although it is really just the videos that are in Silverlight; the other animations are still in Flash. (Intersting combination). Because of this, I finally gave into trying it the other night.

As a mac user, I found the player very responsive and well designed compared to something like the hulu player; whoever built it did a good job. Although it appears that Silverlight is quite partial to the Microsoft media formats, they do have the advantage of modern technology on the mac and linux platforms. The current Flash code is quite archaic and wastes a lot of processing power running old libraries. If Microsoft can fit itself in this niche, they may have a chance, but otherwise Flash still seems superior.

]]> By: iphone development http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-124834 iphone development Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:28:55 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-124834 Great information about the mobile information and You’re pretty smart,I was searching for similar information. Thanks for it and i promise that i will be visiting here often from now ! Great information about the mobile information and You’re pretty smart,I was searching for similar information. Thanks for it and i promise that i will be visiting here often from now !

]]> By: Mike http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-111644 Mike Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:13:56 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-111644 Microsoft needs to add IDE and a Linux plugin and that should help their brand. Microsoft needs to add IDE and a Linux plugin and that should help their brand.

]]> By: the website guy http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-109695 the website guy Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:57:45 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-109695 I would definitely agree that silverlight will make flash better simply by offering competition... BUT, I hate both platforms. I would love to see javascript win the race. Nowadays, libraries like jquery can do most of the things you would want flash for. I would definitely agree that silverlight will make flash better simply by offering competition… BUT, I hate both platforms. I would love to see javascript win the race. Nowadays, libraries like jquery can do most of the things you would want flash for.

]]> By: killian tobin http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-105024 killian tobin Mon, 18 May 2009 19:01:50 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-105024 @Fallon: no offense taken. FYI I'm a PC :-) and I've worked in C# and .Net. I don't share your opinion that x is a better language. A wise man told me that: "The last language you used is usually the best". I don't think any of these (Flash or Silverlight) are really going to be the way out of a html/js/css combo because they are both proprietary tech. I think people are going to choose Flash for the time being just because the installed base is so high- just because a technology is better or easier doesn't really mean anything in terms of popularity/support(Beta v VHS or OODBMS vs RDBMS anyone?). Based on what I have heard about Silverlight, I think its fair to say that ActionScript is programming built for web designers and vice-versa for Silverlight (web designing built for programmers). No knocks on either crowd, but the obvs serve different set of people. Silverlight in my opinion has a long uphill battle against an entrenched platform. From a user's point of view it is hard to see what Silverlight really offers that is much different than flash. (I hear about performance and dev time but I'm sure you can write a processor intensive Silverlight app). MLB sucked last year, then got better as they streamlined somethings. MLB after it's switch to Flash this year sucked and then got better after they worked out some kinks. Either way: I think Silverlight is still a good thing in general- any monopoly gets complacent and if Adobe needs MS to light a fire under them then so be it. I say bring on the open-sourced RIA platform and then we can watch a real fight :-) @Fallon: no offense taken. FYI I’m a PC :-) and I’ve worked in C# and .Net. I don’t share your opinion that x is a better language. A wise man told me that: “The last language you used is usually the best”.

I don’t think any of these (Flash or Silverlight) are really going to be the way out of a html/js/css combo because they are both proprietary tech.

I think people are going to choose Flash for the time being just because the installed base is so high- just because a technology is better or easier doesn’t really mean anything in terms of popularity/support(Beta v VHS or OODBMS vs RDBMS anyone?).

Based on what I have heard about Silverlight, I think its fair to say that ActionScript is programming built for web designers and vice-versa for Silverlight (web designing built for programmers).

No knocks on either crowd, but the obvs serve different set of people. Silverlight in my opinion has a long uphill battle against an entrenched platform.
From a user’s point of view it is hard to see what Silverlight really offers that is much different than flash. (I hear about performance and dev time but I’m sure you can write a processor intensive Silverlight app).

MLB sucked last year, then got better as they streamlined somethings. MLB after it’s switch to Flash this year sucked and then got better after they worked out some kinks.

Either way: I think Silverlight is still a good thing in general- any monopoly gets complacent and if Adobe needs MS to light a fire under them then so be it. I say bring on the open-sourced RIA platform and then we can watch a real fight :-)

]]> By: Chad http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-104779 Chad Sat, 16 May 2009 00:23:41 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-104779 John, Thanks for coming by and offering the correction. I'll make note of it in the post. I was simply going off of what I had thought was an authoritative source in the matter, Readwriteweb, Vallywag, etc. It turns out that was inaccurate. The NFL did however drop Silverlight for Flash, so scratch one, chalk another one up. I really do appreciate someone so close to the product as yourself taking the time to come to my site and comment. I would like it if you could take the time to explain which of the 7 main points I make in the 3 articles is actually subjective though. They all seem pretty quantifiable to me. Just to let you know, though, I do indeed plan on completing the install of Eclipse4SL as soon as I get all the dependencies taken care of. You might want them to post those prereqs on the site. Usually installing an Eclipse plug-in takes 5 minutes. This one took 4 tries looking through the various repositories to get all the dependancies taken care of. Hopefully, once that is done, I'll get a chance to see for myself the power of the SDK and come around. John,
Thanks for coming by and offering the correction. I’ll make note of it in the post. I was simply going off of what I had thought was an authoritative source in the matter, Readwriteweb, Vallywag, etc. It turns out that was inaccurate. The NFL did however drop Silverlight for Flash, so scratch one, chalk another one up.

I really do appreciate someone so close to the product as yourself taking the time to come to my site and comment. I would like it if you could take the time to explain which of the 7 main points I make in the 3 articles is actually subjective though. They all seem pretty quantifiable to me.

Just to let you know, though, I do indeed plan on completing the install of Eclipse4SL as soon as I get all the dependencies taken care of. You might want them to post those prereqs on the site. Usually installing an Eclipse plug-in takes 5 minutes. This one took 4 tries looking through the various repositories to get all the dependancies taken care of. Hopefully, once that is done, I’ll get a chance to see for myself the power of the SDK and come around.

]]> By: John Allwright http://visualrinse.com/2009/05/14/2-years-later-an-update-on-why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-104762 John Allwright Fri, 15 May 2009 21:57:39 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=626#comment-104762 Chad - one factual correction (I'll leave all the subjective stuff aside), NBC have confirmed that the 2010 Winter Olympics will be using Silverlight. I'd suggest you check out the MIX keynote from March where Perkins Miller, SVP Digital Media at NBC talks about how happy they are with Silverlight and why they're using it for Vancouver. (http://videos.visitmix.com/MIX09/KEY01 fastforward to 77:10). And how about Netflix who are using Silverlight for their online delivery of over 12,000 titles to subscribers. Hear what they have to say on the same video (59:30). John Allwright Silverlight Product Manager Microsoft Chad – one factual correction (I’ll leave all the subjective stuff aside), NBC have confirmed that the 2010 Winter Olympics will be using Silverlight.

I’d suggest you check out the MIX keynote from March where Perkins Miller, SVP Digital Media at NBC talks about how happy they are with Silverlight and why they’re using it for Vancouver. (http://videos.visitmix.com/MIX09/KEY01 fastforward to 77:10).

And how about Netflix who are using Silverlight for their online delivery of over 12,000 titles to subscribers. Hear what they have to say on the same video (59:30).

John Allwright
Silverlight Product Manager
Microsoft

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