Comments on: Using CSS Zen Garden as a Teaching Tool For New Web Designers http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/ Design, Development, Technology and My Life. Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:30:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Jacquetta Ellerbee http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-124599 Jacquetta Ellerbee Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:07:38 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-124599 Hi i read your blog often and thought i would say all the best for the New Year! Hi i read your blog often and thought i would say all the best for the New Year!

]]> By: Betsy E. Beatty http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-122631 Betsy E. Beatty Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:01:24 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-122631 I am experiencing a problem with viewing your blog correctlly in the most recent release of Opera. It looks ok in IE7 and Firefox though.Hope you have a really great day. I am experiencing a problem with viewing your blog correctlly in the most recent release of Opera. It looks ok in IE7 and Firefox though.Hope you have a really great day.

]]> By: Search Engine http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-106412 Search Engine Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:38:36 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-106412 Great way of motivating people to learn a great skill. Hats off to you Great way of motivating people to learn a great skill. Hats off to you

]]> By: marc http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-105841 marc Wed, 27 May 2009 05:32:52 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-105841 Hello, Very nice article for CSS designing.... Thanks Marc Hello,
Very nice article for CSS designing….

Thanks
Marc

]]> By: Web Apps http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-103761 Web Apps Tue, 05 May 2009 13:26:33 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-103761 Once you get the hang of CSS, there is no other way to go. Once you get the hang of CSS, there is no other way to go.

]]> By: Taina P. // Sitegrinder http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-103742 Taina P. // Sitegrinder Tue, 05 May 2009 08:54:40 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-103742 Wow, that is such a beautiful and helpful website. I think it's a great tactic, on your part, to teach CSS through the aid of CSS Zen Garden. I'm checking out the submitted entries and they are mind-blowingly beautiful. I might try to create one myself. Thanks for the link! :D Wow, that is such a beautiful and helpful website. I think it’s a great tactic, on your part, to teach CSS through the aid of CSS Zen Garden. I’m checking out the submitted entries and they are mind-blowingly beautiful.

I might try to create one myself. Thanks for the link! :D

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]]> By: CSS Perk http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-99524 CSS Perk Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:10:23 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-99524 Wow, great assignment. I used to mess around like that just on my own so I could learn more. It works great and you discover quickly what works and what doesn't. Sounds like you're a great teacher. Keep it up. ;) Wow, great assignment. I used to mess around like that just on my own so I could learn more. It works great and you discover quickly what works and what doesn’t. Sounds like you’re a great teacher. Keep it up. ;)

]]> By: Vika http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-93555 Vika Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:47:53 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-93555 Thenks. Very cool post becouse I only begining Thenks. Very cool post becouse I only begining

]]> By: Chad http://visualrinse.com/2009/02/15/using-css-zen-garden-as-a-teaching-tool-for-new-web-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-93437 Chad Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:57:09 +0000 http://visualrinse.com/?p=549#comment-93437 David, Thanks for stopping by and for the feedback. * This project is indeed for focusing only on the CSS. We discuss why the markup in the Zen Garden is less than ideal for real world approaches due to it's verbosity, excess spans, extra divs, etc. Semantic markup is addressed in other projects and through lectures. * As far as the progression goes, I find it easier to at least get the type close to the intended target, because if left default, assigning padding, margins and dimensions and placement is difficult to judge. Your point is taken though about the focus on details, it may very well be needed to go back and address the smaller things with a more fine approach on a second pass once the placement is done. * Curriculum is difficult to shape quickly, yes, but the curriculum usually (at least in my case), only dictates that topics be covered... i.e. CSS must be taught in a certain class. It doesn't however, state that CSS must be taught using a particular dogma or set of tools. It does amaze me to learn of examples of students taking web design classes that don't focus on standards, instead using horrible JavScript rollovers, tables and image maps as viable web design tools. What a waste of time, money and bandwidth for all those involved. David,
Thanks for stopping by and for the feedback.

* This project is indeed for focusing only on the CSS. We discuss why the markup in the Zen Garden is less than ideal for real world approaches due to it’s verbosity, excess spans, extra divs, etc. Semantic markup is addressed in other projects and through lectures.

* As far as the progression goes, I find it easier to at least get the type close to the intended target, because if left default, assigning padding, margins and dimensions and placement is difficult to judge. Your point is taken though about the focus on details, it may very well be needed to go back and address the smaller things with a more fine approach on a second pass once the placement is done.

* Curriculum is difficult to shape quickly, yes, but the curriculum usually (at least in my case), only dictates that topics be covered… i.e. CSS must be taught in a certain class. It doesn’t however, state that CSS must be taught using a particular dogma or set of tools. It does amaze me to learn of examples of students taking web design classes that don’t focus on standards, instead using horrible JavScript rollovers, tables and image maps as viable web design tools. What a waste of time, money and bandwidth for all those involved.

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